Indeed, come they did; the bitter, the cynical, the doubting, the questing, and the true-blue believers.
Hi snowbird. I'm curious - which of those names do you judge me as? (Obviously not the last one...)
while this may be construed as a rebuttal to nvr's thread re: why i post about atheism, that is not my intent.. it is my intent, however, to show how i developed a belief in and love for the god of the bible.. my paternal grandfather, who died before i was born, was a baptist preacher, so you could say i cut my teeth on the bible.
i loved having it read to me, and once i learned how, reading it for myself.
i'm convinced that spirituality runs deep in my blood.. i've always had such a strong sense of right and wrong that injustices make me literally sick.
Indeed, come they did; the bitter, the cynical, the doubting, the questing, and the true-blue believers.
Hi snowbird. I'm curious - which of those names do you judge me as? (Obviously not the last one...)
i am really feeling depressed.
my relationship with my jw mother is deteriorating rapidly.
i can't even look at her sometimes.
Hello littleblueuk,
First thing I'll say is this: as long as you know you're doing things because you believe they're right (or not doing them because you believe they're wrong), nobody can take away your integrity from you. You are your own beautiful person.
About the holiday - just a thought: maybe you could all agree not to talk about religion for the whole week? Either way, could you go and choose to show them that you are able to be happy and decent without JWism? If you don't think your sister will change her lifestyle anyway, maybe you should relax a little and stay above the inane JW arguing.
About depression etc. - I don't have any real experience with it, but here a few books which are in my Amazon basket which have been recommended by others here at JWD:
The Mindful Way through Depression: Freeing Yourself from Chronic Unhappiness (purchase includes audio CD narrated by Jon Kabat-Zinn)
There Is Nothing Wrong with You: Going Beyond Self-Hate
Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships
Whatever you decide, know that you're a great person for having the intelligence and strength not to get baptised (unlike myself) and that you've many friends here who can understand you.
Keep posting, and all the best.
it's your decision to make.
it would be as wrong of this community to insist everyone donate blood as it is of the cult to insist otherwise.
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It's on my to-do list. Thanks for the reminder, nicolaou.
it was a fine day.
the sun.
friends.
Glad you were able to have that experience as you feel it was good for you Jeff. It certainly is good to have a cry when you need it.
Thanks for sharing your painful events and your days processing.
you count 10 hours per month but havn't even mentioned your beliefs to a non-dub in years.. you underline your study articles at random and write fake notes in the margins.. you smoke joints to get through meetings, field service and assemblies.. you're secretly banging an elder's wife.. you stuff monopoly money in the contribution box.. you keep your eyes open during prayer and giggle.. when everyone else says "amen" at the end of a prayer, you whisper "what bullshit.".
you have a copy of crisis of conscience in a box buried in your back yard.. you play with an ouija board and watch smurf cartoons when no one is around.. you think "thriller" was the great music video ever made.. you read comic books in the kingdom hall bathroom during meetings.
when questioned about your long time spent in the bathroom, you whisper "i'm constipated.
Funny stuff. :)
You stuff Monopoly money in the contribution box. ~No, but that's where I get rid of pennies~
The elderly brother who handled the money used to complain about all the coppers he had to count. One brother apparently put some in just to annoy him.
It's a shame, but this elderly brother (who'd also pioneered for ages) later got disfellowshipped and then died without his "brothers and sisters" being there for him.
...i just finished reading it.
wow!
the only downside for me is that he talks a lot about how important it is to connect with the pre-cult personality.
Maybe think of all those times when you thought of or did things that you "shouldn't" have whilst a JW? All those little differences of opinion with the FDS? That little voice that wouldn't let you fully settle into the cultic way of life?
Thanks for the 'The Power Of Now' book recommendation - added to my basket. :)
i remember the jw view of martial arts being cemented in my head when i asked my mother at the age of 6 if i could take karate.
the look of horror on her face.
she told me it was violent and jws could not practice violence.
Doing something has crossed my mind before. I'm skinny and so don't have too much all out strength, and I suppose it could be useful to know how to defend one's self should it become necessary.
Would be interested to hear others' experiences, too.
MissingLink: why don't you let your boy handle the elders should they call? ;)
yeah, i need the one that shows how the old wt lit says the same basic teaching as the new generation understanding.....so not new light but finally just recycled crap...........oompa.
i will try to find it.
Welcome to the site, recovering. So sorry to hear about your brother. I have one and can't imagine what it would be like to lose him because of the cult. Well done for rescuing yourself, and all the best with your continual recovery.
If you'd like to post an introductory topic do, of course, feel free.
where to start?.
i thought about typing out a nutshelled life history but changed my mind.
suffice it to say, i was born into "the truth," attempted suicide at 14, "lost my faith" at this time, beat into submission into carrying on as usual, endured a horrible marriage and equally horrible divorce, and am more or less still in it (appearances only!
Welcome, from another born-in.
/* Well-meaning advice
We all make our own choices in life. My advice is to acknowledge your Dad has/will, and also that you should. You can't waste something as precious as life so that someone else can have a position of responsibility in a cult.
*/ Well-meaning advice
See you around the forum. :)
:( Didn't think it was like that here.
So maybe it's not the Masons in the police force we should be worried about...